screwed up the chronological order.
this one should come here.
Oh got why is >>2582
spoilered while >>2583
isn't I'm not good with imageboards.
almost forgot this one.
These are neat, you should do more scenery and settings!
a lewd idea i had. i'll back back to more serious stuff now.
tried this stuff again. this time with reference. didn't work as well as i hoped, but i think this could work in the future.
i'll work on it some more after i got some sleep.
Just wanna say that you're one of my favorite drawfags and I love your sense of humor
Keep on truckin'
What's with the whole "Krautism" thing? I'm assuming it's some sort of insult, but what's the context?
I'm trying to improve and not just in drawing. It will take me some time, but I hope that I can come back with results soon.>>3162
I'm personally responsible for so much drama that it has reached critical mass and has become self-reinforcing and self-sufficient.
It is a little ded in here, but at least I can avoid posting on MLPG in the future.
The head is a bit big Whats the surprise? Tell me tell me tell me!
Hm, yeah I guess it is. Huge heads have always been a major problem for me. I have been drawing a lot of seperate disembodies heads, because I wasn't satified with how the look and I guess that contributed to that.I thought the surprise was obvious, but I don't feel like drawing a follow up picture to that.
4chan in general can be a very hateful place. Since there is anonymity, people think they can make fun of and hate without reprocussion. It's almost a trail by fire nature, but I prefer it over a place that requires a name or has a voting system. There is also a sense of elitism that people let go to their head since there's so many layers between a real person and an anon's post. Those who hate are more vocal than those who appreciate. When someone does something they don't like, and that person has a handle (a name or style), it's like open season. Maybe they think that if they hate something enough, it'll go away. Or maybe they enjoy attempting to be an asshole. I can't tell you how many times sa.jpg has been posted when Sentenal is mentioned or "krautism" when you contribute, but I find it childish and self-destructive while bringing down the quality of mlpg overall. Don't let asswipes control who you are, they aren't worth it. Thank you for being a contributor.
Proportions and shit.
Drawing ponies is starting to feel like a waste of time and effort. I should branch out more in the future.>>3168
I don't think you can still count me as a contributor and I'm slowly ceasing to care. This shit keeps happening over and over and I'd rather keep it out of the thread. Both because I don't want to involve too many people in it and also because I'm sick of it myself.
If I have something to post I'll do it here.
Are you doing this on huge canvases? These kinds of practices work best on paper and meant for warm ups.
Thanks. I do these on the tablet, but I use lines and patterns that usually require me to use the entire surface of my tablet (~5.5x9").
I will do these for a while and will do tehse in the future as warmups. I noticed that anticipating the penstroke and correctly assessing the are you are drawing in is an important skill I don't have. Many artists who make tutorials only make references to this skill in passing and then never talk about it again. I also think I'll add negative space drawing to the list and then try some pictures with reference without actually looking at my pen or canvas when I'm drawing, which is another excercise which I should have done a long time ago.
*assessing the area you are drawing in
Yeah, I think that headsize from your study-thing works fine for normal ponies, but the princesses have a smaller head and longer face - I don't think the circle for their head should have a much bigger diameter than the neckI hope you don't mind that I edited your pic
Not at all. But as I said, drawing ponies would be a waste of time now. I'll take care of more basic stuff for a while and if this fandom still exists once I'm done with that I might draw a pone or two.
Whatever your next move is just continue practicing. I like your drawings so please continue.
I'll keep drawing, but for now I will keep anything to myself and won't upload anything for a while. I haven't been to MLPG in a few days and avoided Skype for the most part and so far cutting more ties has been good for me. Since this is a smaller and more manegable place I will do all my interaction with anyone here. I'll stop by here every now and then and will update with art as soon as I stop hating it and make something presentable, which will be a long time from now.
I hope you comeback more often then dude. Don't isolate yourself too much. Good luck.
I'd rather stay gone for a while. I made most of my progress when I wasn't getting onto others people's tits and I was by myself.
I still hate drawing. It makes me mad really quick, it makes me feel sick, I hate everything I do and I hate myself for doing it, but I'm trying to get out of that and the only way I can do that is to do more until the pains stops.
That's just a little venting, since this place is nice and quit and I don't have to bother anyone in private I'll do that here this one time.
I'll try to keep quiet, because I don't want to say and do things I will regret again. I will get through this, but I have to do it alone.
sometimes i wonder where i could be if i had not pissed off all these people i look up to.
If what's being posted in the threads is true, most of your friends still care. Maybe send them a line?
i'm not sure where people get the idea that i have many art friends, because i don't. i just drew some stuff for people i apprecite or have interacted with in one way or another, because i assumed that was acceptable.
i have alienated all of these people but one.
this whole MLPG drawfag thing hasn't worked out the way i hoped it would, so i will no longer try to force my way into the community.
i have drawn a lot of stuff lately, almost all non-pony, and it has been working well so far.
i will focus on general improvement and expanding my skills until my style has changed enough to start posting elsewhere without people spotting me.
i want to continue drawing, but i don't want to continue carrying the baggage i got in this fandom and the stain on my reputation has gotten to bad to be washed off.
i have learned a lot of things at a price that was a little too high, but i can't undo anything now.
i will try my luck somewhere else and this time i won't fuck it up.
Different anon here. I'm really sorry about all the stuff you've been going through. We talked a few times before, and you're really not a bad guy. I wish I made more of an effort to be your friend.
For what it's worth I wish you all the best and I hope that whatever it is you learned will help you in your future plans, wherever those might take you.
But let me reiterate that even if you have only one friend that you actively talk to, the fact that the rest of us don't necessarily contact you is probably not out of any ill will.
Goodbye/see you later.
it's better this way.
for all of us.
No it isn't.
I miss you Kraut.
i'm sorry you feel that way, but i can no longer help but associating MLPG with bad things and with the many fatal mistakes i've made.
i looked for a reason to start drawing a long time and MLPG provided a large part of that. i started to learn how to draw with the prospect of one day being accepted and being a part of it. but it didn't work out. i haven't been to an actual thread in weeks, except for when that lauren faust shit was happening, but being there constantly reminded me of how badly i fucked it all up and i want to get rid of that ballast.
i'm sorry for being as selfish as i always am, but it's better just to try again somewhere else and apply the lessons i have learned here the hard way than it is to fix something that is way beyond repair.
I don't give a shit about MLPG either, dude I just want you to be happy.
why do you care?
i was just trying to explain myself
sorry. i didn't meant to act like an asshole.
i still haven't learned how to control and restrain myself.
my unacceptable and inexcusable behavior was what got me into this mess in the first place and i will work towards getting rid of that.
Kraut, I think you are suffering from something I call "sheep fucker's remorse". It goes something like this: people tend to remember the negative things people do. You can save people's lives from a burning building, help the homeless, some sort of third Samaritan deed, but when word gets around that you fucked a sheep, that's all they'll associate you with.
"Oh hey, John Goodman just donated a lot of money to a charity!"
People aren't going to forget, so you are just going to have to ignore. The ones who do keep bringing up your shit are usually doing it as a juvenile attempt to say "I don't like thing". It's like hitting a dislike button really hard with a stock phrase. It's pointless. If you like drawing, then draw. I like your drawings, even your non pony stuff, lewd and all.
i didn't want it to end like this, so i will just add that i'm sorry for everything i've done, that i'm sorry for ever interfering with your lives and that i'm sorry for everything i've caused. i know that i can never make it up to all of you in any way, but just saying it is the least i can do. and sorry for letting you down.
take care everyone.
sorry, i didn't read your post before posting myself, but what you said has nothing to do with my descision.
I really wish you weren't so hard on yourself. I think you are making a bigger deal out of this than it really is.
Please don't leave
i'll try drawing this thing now, anon, but please remeber to use sage.
even though you may want to see it others will not.
Looks good, mate.
also this happened
>rarity and fluttershy having a jack off contest in public
my non-pony improvement is starting to pick up, but due to the nature of my excercises and the excercises themselves i expect no noticable improvement in how i draw ponies for the enxt few weeks or months. mostly working on fundamentals
Ah, so you are the one that did these. Nice to see you back.
Hehe, nice. Do you think you could draw some stallions jacking off into a busty girl?
…… this is very relevant to my interests
Kraut draws the best Marka.
You know you don't have to post only pony things, right?
well, i need to work on my fundamentals and recently i have been mostly drawing shoes, potatoes and ginger roots.
i'm actually starting to see some progress, but it will take me a while until i can do some interesting studies
>>4864>well, i need to work on my fundamentals and recently i have been mostly drawing shoes, potatoes and ginger roots.
shit like this. mostly working on learning how to use reference properly and accurately and learning how to use "art vision" and to avoid symbol drawing. drawing from reference like this might seem like tracing by proxy, but it is actually pretty helpful even when not using reference.
i still need to get the hang of it, which is why my non-reference drawings still haven't improved much
What is this "art vision" you speak of?
If you're going to quit drawing, then do us a favour and pull a Good Will Hunting moment and just don't show up one day.
Don't say anything to anyone, just disappear.
when did i talk about or mention quitting?
Apologies.People were throwing names around again, not in any angry manner, just towards a some artists with really long posts explaining why he wasn't going to draw anymore.
>>5039>just towards a some artists with really long posts explaining why he wasn't going to draw anymore.
well, i did snap a little yesterday, but i said nothing about quitting. that must have been someone else.
>Don't say anything to anyone
i'm trying my best to do that.
i guess i can post this here too.
never mind the horsecocks.
as i said this is old and unfinished and i don't plan to ever finish it.
God I admire your style so hard.
i didn't expect praise from you. i haven't told you, but i really love your style. i'm not very good or consistent with my own original style, but the one i have in my head is pretty close to yours coincidentally.
t-thank you for those words.they mean more to me than you might think
Oh gosh, is this SB's Sugar?
Hello, anon from thread. I'm just out of ideas. Been artblocked for months. I can't figure things out anymore.
okay. the mind exercises i have mentioned are the most important part of the problem. don't make them lose your momentum, take one thing at a time and never forget that not everything is bad all the time.
sorry for repeating myself, but that is too important.
that being said, you can always draw studies from reference or do pen exercises. you might not be a beginner, but try to follow this guide even if you have experience as a kind of refresher course: http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-draw-learn
this type of fundamental skills will make every single drawing you do in the future a tiny bit easier. keep in mind that progress is usually slow and erratic, so keep pushing. analyze what you do, take notes and learn from everything, especially from your mistakes.
feedback can be very helpful, so try to get artists to give you critique and pointers. getting some assistance from someone who has been through this already can greatly smooth out your road to success. and try to get as much feedback from as many people as you possibly can. if you don't feel confident in sharing, that's fine too, but you shouldn't rely on yourself all the time too much
can you uh
can you draw more of this?
once i'm better at drawing humans from memory.
i'll try coming up with my own style of stylized humans, i'm making sorta good progress right now, so i might work on that soon.
some horseboner and marecunt stuff.
still not very good at that
I think you exaggerate that frilly rim on the head too much
I don't know if it's realistic but I don't like that barbed peely stuff
yeah i see that now. i should have made use of my extensive reference folder.
is there anything else hat isn't dicks that needs work? i don't get critique that often
everything is really looking good. Maybe do a few detailed figure drawings or faces? I'm sure you have that already have plans to do that anyway after you get better at the general proportions.
just keep it up, you're gonna make it brah
I absolutely love this
i didnt really know how to contact you besides posting here but happy birthday m8http://i.imgur.com/hzWFvIm.png
forgot to mention, i tried the hard brush look, which kinda worked, but i tried giving it the shaggy coat, which kinda mudded the thing up and i haven't saved a WIP. i'll be practicing that more if i get to it.
hey kraut, would you take requests?
how about commissions?
i have though about it some time, but i don't think i ever will.
Mammoths are fucking cool creatures of our planets past! Those are pretty great. If you feel like making more, I'd love to see you do a scene between a mammoth and a smilodon.
That looks awesome dude
i don't know where else to put this reply.
i'm not surprised. as a matter of fact i knew that something like this was going on.
not sure if this is the "pure gold" you wanted.
Now you've lost me.
I'm more lost than usual.
it began here. by the way I didn't participate in the conversation or anything, just explaining thingshttp://arch.413chan.net/mlp14191461.html#p14194498
i wish you all the best kraut, ignore those guys from the thread.
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i'll have no trouble doing that. seeing as everyone likes to seem stuff they know or think about me secret from me, while telling every single tom, dick and harry and everyone else who isn't me on the planet and their grandmother. and it's not like this is the first time either.
i'm so fucking sick of that. so fucking sick of all this constant underlying deceit and dishonesty.
i'm done being your clown. get your entertainment somewhere else.